If my man gets into office and doesn’t do anything for the environment, then I will probably take your position, but I want to stay optimistic for a little while longer. I am optimistic, because I believe the problem is getting too large to be ignored. Furthermore, the dissent is getting louder and louder, and the dissent has forced its way into mainstream, because much of what is happening in the areas of alternative energy, energy conservation, and renewable energy is the result of progressive thinkers like you and me, and contributions from the mass movement – environmentalism. Furthermore, we have individuals at the grassroots level that are making the transition.

Frustration sucks but for better or worse, change never comes too quickly, because we have to negotiate our ideas (in addition to our own differences within our own movements) with a complex landscape made up of numerous types of individuals across the spectrum.

I agree with you about the need for all of us to stop sucking at the teat of Mother Oil. But I’m really sick of all the political rhetoric associated with the discussions about the problem. One political party has done basically nothing more than the other, to wean the babies!

I guess maybe I’m watching too much t.v. or listening to too much radio. Dems pointing at Repubs… Repubs pointing at Dems… when both are guilty as hell and have no business pointing their bony fingers at anybody.

I guess maybe I’ve voted in too many elections, thinking “my guy” was going to change things… only to realize that in 8 years he did nothing about the cause or issue he and his party supposedly stood for… and worse yet, campaigned on!!

For me it’s kind of like the fox pointing at the coyote and accusing him of being a thoughtless carnivore… when the fox maintains the same diet.

According to most independent scientific studies, global oil production will now decline from 74 million barrels per day to 60 million barrels per day by 2015. During the same time demand will increase 14%.

This is equivalent to a 33% drop in 7 years. No one can reverse this trend, nor can we conserve our way out of this catastrophe. Because the demand for oil is so high, it will always exceed production levels; thus oil depletion will continue steadily until all recoverable oil is extracted.

Alternatives will not even begin to fill the gap. And most alternatives yield electric power, but we need liquid fuels for tractors/combines, 18 wheel trucks, trains, ships, and mining equipment.

We are facing the collapse of the highways that depend on diesel trucks for maintenance of bridges, cleaning culverts to avoid road washouts, snow plowing, roadbed and surface repair. When the highways fail, so will the power grid, as highways carry the parts, transformers, steel for pylons, and high tension cables, all from far away. With the highways out, there will be no food coming in from “outside,” and without the power grid virtually nothing works, including home heating, pumping of gasoline and diesel, airports, communications, and automated systems.

This is documented in a free 48 page report that can be downloaded, website posted, distributed, and emailed: http://www.peakoilassociates.com/POAnalysis.html

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