7 thoughts on “OBAMA birth certificate controversy continues”

1. If all of this so-called evidence is out there,then where can I see it. And,indeed,why does he refuse to release his college entrance papers,like every other politician has had to do? All of his “secrecy” is certainly hiding something, and it just may be something worse than his birth.

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2. Look, it’s real simple. When the American people asked for proof that Obama was born on US soil, he provided a fraudulent birth document that has been examined by experts who all have concluded it is in fact a photoshop fake.

   Only criminals and con artists use fake identification documents. Period. End of story.

   And all the defenses of Obama pointing to internet sites like noFact.org as proof are in themselves ridiculous. In fact, the very birth certificate that noFact stands behind has already been proven by every expert who examined it to be a fake photoshop fraud. See the reports and documents for yourself at http://obamadocuments.wordpress.com/

   CNN folks continually say the American people will never convinced, are purposely skirting the one and only single request we are asking for:

   A legitimate, certified, COLB birth certificate. You know, like the ones we all have to provide when we get a drivers license?

   The fact is that only criminals and con artists use fraudulent identification documents, and only news journalists who take the word of noFact.org over demanding the real document are not true news journalists themselves.

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   • The issue over Barack Obama’s birth certificate is ridiculous. From the tea parties to the Judge Sotomayor shenanigans (e.g., Pat Buchanan) to the issue over Barack Obama’s birth certificate—there has been one big expulsion of hypocrisy, ignorance, racism, and unreasonable discontent, since the election of President Barack Obama.

     Furthermore, I reckon the courts are involved in the “alleged conspiracy to conceal Obama’s true nationality” as well. There has been no credible evidence to show some type of conspiracy. In Berg v. Obama, 574 F.Supp.2d 509 (D.Pa. 2008), the district court held (emphasis added):

     Various accounts, details, and ambiguities from Obama’s childhood form the basis of Plaintiff’s allegation that Obama is not a natural born citizen of the United States. To support his contention, Plaintiff cites sources as varied as the Rainbow Edition News Letter, ( id. ¶ 39), and the television news tabloid Inside Edition ( id. ¶ 45). These sources and others lead Plaintiff to conclude that Obama is either a citizen of his father’s native Kenya, by birth there or through operation of U.S. law; or that Obama became a citizen of Indonesia by relinquishing his prior citizenship (American or Kenyan) when he moved there with his mother in 1967. Either way, in Plaintiff’s opinion, Obama does not have the requisite qualifications for the Presidency that the Natural Born Citizen Clause mandates. The Amended Complaint alleges that Obama has actively covered up this information and that the other named Defendants are complicit in Obama’s cover-up.

     [...]

     1. Plaintiff Does Not Have Standing
     “[A] voter fails to present an injury-in-fact when the alleged harm is abstract and widely shared or is only derivative of a harm experienced by a candidate.” Crist, 262 F.3d at 193; Jones, 122 F.Supp.2d at 717 (holding that harm experienced by “Plaintiff[s] and all other American citizens” was too “undifferentiated and general nature” to confer standing on voters) (emphasis in original). The alleged harm to voters stemming from a presidential candidate’s failure to satisfy the eligibility requirements of the Natural Born Citizen Clause is not concrete or particularized enough to constitute an injury in fact sufficient to satisfy Article III standing. See Hollander, 566 F.Supp.2d at 68 (noting that such harm “would adversely affect only the generalized interest of all citizens in constitutional governance”) (citations omitted).

     Hollander and Jones are instructive. In Hollander, the plaintiff alleged that the Republican party primary candidate, John McCain,FN10 was ineligible to be President because he was born in the Panama Canal Zone and, therefore, was not a “natural born citizen” as that term is used in the Natural Born Citizen Clause. Hollander, at 64-69. The plaintiff believed that if the Republican National Committee were permitted to nominate McCain, and McCain were subsequently found ineligible to run for President, then plaintiff and “100 million additional voters” would be disenfranchised. Id. at 668. The district court ruled that the plaintiff did not have standing because the harm plaintiff alleged was too generalized.

     [...]

     We do not reach an analysis of the three elements of § 1985(3) because Plaintiff has made no allegations that the purported conspiracy is motivated by racial animus. Instead, the Amended Complaint is focused entirely on an alleged conspiracy to conceal Obama’s true nationality. Therefore, Plaintiff cannot state a cognizable § 1985 claim.

     More from the National Post (emphasis added):

     Joseph Farah, editor of the conservative WorldNetDaily website and a leading figure in the so-called ‘birther’ movement, last month offered $10,000 for “anyone who can provide persuasive evidence of involvement or presence at that birth — whether it took place in Hawaii or elsewhere.”

     Several lawsuits questioning Mr. Obama’s citizenship, including one claiming he was actually born in Kenya, have been dismissed over the past year as frivolous. The Supreme Court in December 2008 refused to hear one of the cases.

     But early this week, a U.S. district court judge in Santa Ana, Calif., agreed to listen to “the merits” of a suit brought against Obama by Alan Keyes, a conservative Republican who lost to Obama in the 2004 Illinois Senate election.

     In Georgia this week, a U.S. soldier, Army Maj. Stefan Cook, refused deployment to Afghanistan as a conscientious objector, arguing he could not serve overseas under a “foreign-born” commander in chief.

     The Obama citizenship controversy was also the inspiration for a bill a Republican congressman introduced recently in the House of Representatives, which would require future presidential candidates to submit a birth certificate to prove they are constitutionally qualified to serve in the White House.

     Texas Representative Randy Neugebauer, one of the bill’s seven Republican co-sponsors, last month stunned his constituents by telling a radio host he wasn’t sure if Obama was an American citizen.

     “You know, I don’t know,” Mr. Neugebauer said. “I’ve never seen him produce documents that would say one way or the other.”

     The emergence of a movement that questions Mr. Obama’s citizenship has come as little surprise to academics who have studied conspiracy theories.

     “People who make these kinds of arguments don’t try to assert a positive argument themselves. What they do is they refuse to accept evidence that someone else has presented,” says Ted Goertzel, a professor of sociology at Rutgers University in Camden, N.J., who has studied the psychology of people who believe in conspiracy theories.

     People who embrace conspiracy theories tend to harbour deep suspicions about government, politicians and institutions, says Mr. Goertzel. So when a young African-American emerges from relative obscurity to become president, conspiracy theorists conclude his ascent resulted from some form of elaborate plot.

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3. Below are two official emails that dispute the public version of Obama’s Birth and his mother’s marriage to BHO Sr.

   From: pubrec@u.washington.edu [mailto:pubrec@u.washington.edu]
   Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2008
   Subject: Re: Stanley “Ann” Dunham 1960 to 1970 class registration

   Ms. Stanley Ann Dunham (BHO II’s mom) was enrolled at the University of Washington for:

   Autumn 1961
   Winter 1962
   Spring 1962

   The records responsive to your request from the University of Washington are above as provided by the Public Disclosure Laws of Washington State. This concludes the University’s response to your Public Records request. Please feel free to contact our office if you have any questions or concerns.

   Madolyne Lawson
   Office of Public Records
   206-543-9180

   From: Stuart Lau [mailto:stuartl@hawaii.edu]
   Sent: Friday, September 05, 2008
   Subject: Re: Inquiry

   The University of Hawaii at Manoa is only able to provide the following information for Stanley Ann Dunham:
   Dates of attendance:
   Fall 1960 (First day of instruction 9/26/1960)
   Spring 1963 – Summer 1966
   Fall 1972 – Fall 1974
   Summer 1976
   Spring 1978
   Fall 1984 – Summer 1992

   Degrees awarded:
   BA – Mathematics, Summer 1967 (August 6, 1967)
   MA – Anthropology, Fall 1983 (December 18, 1983)
   PhD – Anthropology, Summer 1992 (August 9, 1992)

   Sincerely, Stuart Lau
   ****************************************
   Stuart Lau
   University Registrar
   Office of Admissions and Records
   University of Hawaii at Manoa
   Ph: (808) 956-8010
   ****************************************

   Commentary on University Emails:

   For the BHO II Hawaiian Aug 4 1961 COLB to be accurate the following improbable events needed to occur:

   1 month after starting classes, Stanley Ann Dunham, Barack’s mom, at age 17, got pregnant by the only black African man on the entire chain of Hawaiian islands.
   2 months after getting pregnant, she drops out of college.
   3 months after getting pregnant, she marries BHO Sr.
   10 months after her first day at the U of HI, she delivers BHO II and immediately leaves her parents, her new husband, and her home, to fly alone with a newborn 2800 miles to Seattle to start college at the U of W.
   Stanley Ann Dunham does not return to Hawaii until AFTER BHO Sr left the islands for Harvard.

   This is an implausible series of events made even more nefarious because Obama II in his 2 bio books never mentions his mom left Hawaii when she was married to BHO Sr, nor does he mention she was in Washington State during this time.

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4. Simply ridiculous.
   As for that woman in the audience, not to mention the people who cheered and agreed with her, well that’s just scary. People all round the world get scared when we see people like that.
   (Keep up the good work Buck!)

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5. Something of Interest, posted elsewhere on the Net:

   “Discovery hearing re. Obama’s Kenyan BC, request for depositions of
   Secretary of State Hillary Clinton and Secretary of Defense Robert
   Gates scheduled for September 8th, 8am.

   08/21/2009 44 MINUTES OF IN CHAMBERS ORDER by Judge David O. Carter:
   ORDER SETTING SEPTEMBER 8, 2009 HEARING ONMOTIONS: (See document for
   details.) In summary, the Court sets for hearing at 8:00 a.m. on
   September 8, 2009, (1) the Discovery Motion, (2) the Service Notice,
   and (3) the Ex Parte Application. All parties are ordered to be
   present. The Clerk shall serve this minute order on all parties to the
   action. (rla) (Entered: 08/21/2009)

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